Comments on: Those Who Can’t Do…Teach? Part 2 http://www.theabundantartist.com/those-who-cant-do-teach-part-2/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:58:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Neil McKenzie http://www.theabundantartist.com/those-who-cant-do-teach-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1716 Neil McKenzie Fri, 23 Apr 2010 04:22:43 +0000 http://www.theabundantartist.com/?p=919#comment-1716 You should be looking for teachers everywhere. You can learn from successful artists, successful business people and people in general. I tell my students to get out and experience life. Hang around people who are smater than you, hang around people that are interesting, hang around your customers. The idea you talk about is no different for graduates of business programs. No Starving Artists - right on! You should be looking for teachers everywhere. You can learn from successful artists, successful business people and people in general. I tell my students to get out and experience life. Hang around people who are smater than you, hang around people that are interesting, hang around your customers.

The idea you talk about is no different for graduates of business programs. No Starving Artists – right on!

]]> By: Devon http://www.theabundantartist.com/those-who-cant-do-teach-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-967 Devon Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:12:01 +0000 http://www.theabundantartist.com/?p=919#comment-967 ACPA is interesting. Austin's my home town, and I've always been surprised by the under-representation of theatre, given its huge population of (musical) artists. If you'll write a post re: the charter school model, I'll counter-post :) ACPA is interesting. Austin’s my home town, and I’ve always been surprised by the under-representation of theatre, given its huge population of (musical) artists. If you’ll write a post re: the charter school model, I’ll counter-post :)

]]> By: David Sandusky http://www.theabundantartist.com/those-who-cant-do-teach-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-963 David Sandusky Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:38:01 +0000 http://www.theabundantartist.com/?p=919#comment-963 we are a four year degree with major, minor and certificates. It is much more than the excellent class I mentioned. Another example is the class I teach, creative problem solving: http://www.kdvr.com/videobeta/watch/?watch=33323233-40e8-4414-a141-d6b12c5e5711 How do we get the word out? That is what I and my fellow founding board members are doing. Starting in Denver. we are a four year degree with major, minor and certificates. It is much more than the excellent class I mentioned. Another example is the class I teach, creative problem solving:
http://www.kdvr.com/videobeta/watch/?watch=33323233-40e8-4414-a141-d6b12c5e5711
How do we get the word out? That is what I and my fellow founding board members are doing. Starting in Denver.

]]> By: Will http://www.theabundantartist.com/those-who-cant-do-teach-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-962 Will Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:32:28 +0000 http://www.theabundantartist.com/?p=919#comment-962 College failed me for jazz. Robert conti teaches a very practical approach by getting lines under your fingers to start with. College failed me for jazz. Robert conti teaches a very practical approach by getting lines under your fingers to start with.

]]> By: theabundantartist http://www.theabundantartist.com/those-who-cant-do-teach-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-961 theabundantartist Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:14:16 +0000 http://www.theabundantartist.com/?p=919#comment-961 David, I have seen a LOT of local organizations teaching Arts entrepreneurship - yet, most artists still have no idea how to run a business. Has it just not reached a critical mass yet? How do we get the word out to artists that this training is available? David, I have seen a LOT of local organizations teaching Arts entrepreneurship – yet, most artists still have no idea how to run a business. Has it just not reached a critical mass yet? How do we get the word out to artists that this training is available?

]]> By: theabundantartist http://www.theabundantartist.com/those-who-cant-do-teach-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-960 theabundantartist Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:12:41 +0000 http://www.theabundantartist.com/?p=919#comment-960 Oh, Devon, the more I read your writing the more I'm convinced we are of one mind. I could, and should, write a lengthy blog post on the very thing you are proposing. A small theatre company somewhere that had a training program attached to it that showed actors how to make a living...you should check out Jim Hart's <a href="http://austinconservatory.com">Austin Conservatory of Professional Arts</a>. He's trying to do just that. Oh, Devon, the more I read your writing the more I’m convinced we are of one mind. I could, and should, write a lengthy blog post on the very thing you are proposing. A small theatre company somewhere that had a training program attached to it that showed actors how to make a living…you should check out Jim Hart’s Austin Conservatory of Professional Arts. He’s trying to do just that.

]]> By: Devon http://www.theabundantartist.com/those-who-cant-do-teach-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-959 Devon Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:05:08 +0000 http://www.theabundantartist.com/?p=919#comment-959 Not exactly the same, but I've been thinking the past few days about how to adopt the charter school model for the theatre. How to abandon the bureaucracy and focus again on the art. How to attract young artists/administrators with energy and passion and new ideas. How to be an incubator for ideas that bigger institutions could actually deploy. How to make a structure that is replicable at least regionally if not nationally, flexible enough to adapt to local circumstances. The similarities between artists and teachers are many, as are the issues facing schools and theatres. Not exactly the same, but I’ve been thinking the past few days about how to adopt the charter school model for the theatre. How to abandon the bureaucracy and focus again on the art. How to attract young artists/administrators with energy and passion and new ideas. How to be an incubator for ideas that bigger institutions could actually deploy. How to make a structure that is replicable at least regionally if not nationally, flexible enough to adapt to local circumstances. The similarities between artists and teachers are many, as are the issues facing schools and theatres.

]]> By: David Sandusky http://www.theabundantartist.com/those-who-cant-do-teach-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-956 David Sandusky Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:01:34 +0000 http://www.theabundantartist.com/?p=919#comment-956 your tweet and this post reminded me right away of my colleague Neil McKenzie who has a successful Photography business in Denver, an excellent track record as a management consultant and adds value on and offline. He teaches Artrepreneurship at the Center for Innovation at Metropolitan State College of Denver. He is VERY effective because of his success out of class in the past, present and future. I like to see these kind of teachers in life and watch them grow as a result of teaching. BTW, I know he is effective because his students tell us in the community and I have been presented some business plans...required for 1/2 of the students grade! We need more like this. Keep up the good work. your tweet and this post reminded me right away of my colleague Neil McKenzie who has a successful Photography business in Denver, an excellent track record as a management consultant and adds value on and offline. He teaches Artrepreneurship at the Center for Innovation at Metropolitan State College of Denver. He is VERY effective because of his success out of class in the past, present and future. I like to see these kind of teachers in life and watch them grow as a result of teaching. BTW, I know he is effective because his students tell us in the community and I have been presented some business plans…required for 1/2 of the students grade! We need more like this. Keep up the good work.

]]> By: Those Who Can’t Do…Teach? http://www.theabundantartist.com/those-who-cant-do-teach-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-954 Those Who Can’t Do…Teach? Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:36:47 +0000 http://www.theabundantartist.com/?p=919#comment-954 [...] Check out my latest thoughts on why the best artists should be teachers. Share and [...] [...] Check out my latest thoughts on why the best artists should be teachers. Share and [...]

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